Terry, you are hurting my head with references to authors.

By Christian Grantham on 03.03.08 12:36 pm

I’m sorry, Christian. I should know better, especially on a Monday!

Did you ever read Brave New World though? When they chant, etc.? Just the Obama, Obama, over and over…it just sticks in your head!

By Terry on 03.03.08 12:44 pm

My head is hurting for a different reason. I never thought that I’d live to see American Idol and the election of a U.S. President intersect.

By David on 03.03.08 1:05 pm

Clinton, Obama and McCain are all CFR candidates. NAFTA isn’t going anywhere.

By Eric Holcombe on 03.03.08 1:15 pm

I just have to wonder how long the voters will follow nothing but “packaging” in this election. I understand that it can and should be an attention getter. But just because it says “New and Improved!” on the box, they should not buy it without seeing the box is empty. All Barack is putting out is hot air at this point. I am capable of doing the same. If they elect me I will do it for half the money that Barack will get. I just proposed REAL change there, more change than Obama has done thus far in his election. How cheesy is that?

By BCB on 03.03.08 1:40 pm

BCB: I’ll write you in!

By Terry on 03.03.08 2:29 pm

I’ll do it for free! Ha – beat that Mr. Change! :p

By Jim on 03.03.08 2:51 pm

Sorry, BCB…I’m changing my write-in to Jim!

By Terry on 03.03.08 4:00 pm

Of course, all of you realize that Barack Obama is destined to be the next President of the United States. There is just too much public unrest with the 8-year Clinton legacy and soon to be 8-year George W. Bush legacy. I honestly believe that a chipmunk could get elected this year just on the basis of being something—Lord help us anything—that smacks of fresh and different. McCain does not have a snowball’s chance in Hades, although I have to admit to liking the guy quite a bit. Unless Hillary pulls off a miracle tomorrow, which I very much doubt, Obama will be President. There is almost no doubt about it, so I think we all need to start getting used to the idea—like it or not. Whether he will be a good President or a Millard Fill-Less remains to be seen.

By Tracy on 03.03.08 4:40 pm

You’re flat wrong, Tracy, when you say “…Barack Obama is destined to be the next President…”

He has too many bones rattling around in his closet that simply have not yet come to light. I’m sure you are familiar with the name Tony Rezko. If not a simple Google will tell you the man is a big time snake oil salesman from the Chicago area–the same Chicago Mr BHO hails from. The connection between Rezko and BHO will come more clearly into focus over the next few months during Mr Rezko’s trial.

Plus there are many leaders in the black community who are speaking out against him–some rather forcefully like the Reverend Manning from ATLAH.

So he isn’t a surefire bet. Not at all. In fact, if McCain ever decides to quit trying to cozy up to liberals and remember who brought him to the dance, he will be a formidable opponent.

Whether that happens or not remains to be seen.

I would remind you that there are still plenty of die-hard conservatives in this country who are not about to vote for a liberal; who like most things as they are and don’t want change for change sake.

By chowdog2 on 03.03.08 5:16 pm

If it is destiny, why are we even bothering with an election? Where is the list of who is next? How do I get on that “destiny’ list? And apparently, Affirmative Action will apply here right?

First, I don’t know how much I would be willing to pay out of my pocket to keep Obama, Clinton AND McCain out of the White House. But I would appreciate your write in vote in November. lol What might be quite a tidy sum to me might not make a decent tip at some restaurants right now. I can’t wait for Obama to fix that for me.I had to laugh before the gravity of it hit me, Obama wants to “engage” Cuba, Iran and other enemies of our country in dialogue and wants to invade Pakistan, the closest thing we have to an ally over there. And this rank amateur cannot even keep his NAFTA statements in order? While I like the idea of change, I always had hoped it would be forward and upward, not back and to the left.” I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER’S RACE”. That little unifying gem is in his autobiography Dreams from my Father that Obama put out. He doesn’t care to try it now but back then – “I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites”.Just like is backpedaling (at best) or his outright lies (the worst) about NAFTA, how will Obama get that racial refuse off the bottom of his shoe? Or will the more than willing media protect their little darling and ignore it?

By BCB on 03.03.08 8:59 pm

Imagine a Presidential administration where the hateful divisiveness of Repub v Dem is gone, an administration where the president’s cabinet has both equal shares of Dems and Repubs, where people in this country can suddenly be united around America and not their political party, where America can stand for good in the world instead of cowboy arrogance, where the government doesn’t hide behind the shadow of executive privilege ignoring oversight and depending of fear to push an agenda, where the president can work with Congress and not against it. Sounds like a dream.

Democrats, independents and Republicans who are tired of the division and distraction that has clouded Washington, who know that we can disagree without being disagreeable, who understand that, if we mobilize our voices to challenge the money and influence that stood in our way and challenge ourselves to reach for something better, there is no problem we cannot solve, there is no destiny that we cannot fulfill. … We are not as divided as our politics suggests.”

The youth enthusiasm and turnout in the primaries has been huge. After growing up under the Bush administration, how many of these new voters do you think will feel compelled to vote Republican? Next to none.

By Pam on 03.04.08 4:18 am

Pam: Then how do you explain Barack Obama’s ranking by National Journal as the MOST LIBERAL member of the Senate?

Where’s his record of non-partisanship? Where’s evidence of the bridge building? With Tony Rezko in land deals?

Come on. The unity you liberals want is for the conservatives to give up the fight.

And the for hatefulness, Pam/Ellie, I think the years of folks calling Bush “Hitler” etc. would require that Obama talk to his own followers.

By Terry on 03.04.08 5:31 am

I see more hate and divisiveness on the side of the Liberals and Democrats than on the Conservatives or Republicans. Would anyone call the comments made by Kerry about our troops being terrorists loving or unifying? Murtha? The whole class warfare thing that Dems have been running on? Will Obama’s views on race as he expressed in his books be unifying? How about the views of the potential First Lady and her views on race, taxes and Corporate America? Will a Hate Crime Bill unify or divide? I think since we already have a Love Crime Bill, that a Hate Crime Bill is only fair. But wait, who will it protect? Almost everyone except white, law abiding, Christian, heterosexual men and heaven forbid if you are in the military or law enforcement, you are specifically written out of that bill. What happened to equal protection? So the great unifier that is chock full of hope will further divide this nation along racial, sexual and other lines. It sounds like he wants to cut this country into little pie piece wedges.

You speak of youth. Youthful enthusiasm is great for mobilizing things, but only with age will come the wisdom to know what direction they should be going. My relative was a rabid Democrat and believed in every liberal program and value coming down the road. Taxes were something that only the rich should pay. Pollution was a crime perpetrated on us out of some misplaced greed by corporations. Public education was great, proper and to disagree was un-American. Entitlement programs were the crowning jewel of the American Liberal crown. He is out of school now. He has expressed great anger at the lies he was taught in college. He is married. He found out that because he has a job, liberals think he is rich and tax him accordingly. He found out how hard it was to mow his yard and get his kids to soccer practice and heat his home without a little pollution. His children are now in private schools and he wishes that our politicians were more responsive to his needs and provided school vouchers. He drives by people on the street that are clearly able bodied and expresses disbelief in how they actually qualify for these lovely entitlement programs while he has to work for his money. Ah youth, it is all great while someone else pays your bills but once you are on your own sometime reality just kicks you in the teeth.

By BCB on 03.04.08 12:07 pm

How many people can honestly say they are doing better now than in the Clinton years, that America is going in the right direction, that things look promising this year for the economy?

I guess your only hope is to try and scare people into voting for the old war hero, the guy that represents the past, the war, the $4 gas prices. You have got to be delusional if you think Americans have been satisfied with 7 years of an incompetent president and want to see a continuation under McCain. It’s ok to bankrupt our economy and send us into a recession, spending $330 million in Iraq EVERYDAY, but healthcare for all children is too expensive. But hey, the war profiteers have been doing great.

By Pam on 03.04.08 1:01 pm

Pam, you seem to know what McCain stands for and how we will move the country. What does BHO stand for and what has he actually said that tells us how he will make changes? Even though I don’t like McCain, he is still better than magic fairy dust and clapping our hands saying “I believe” so that Tinkerbell lives. BHO won’t even tell us why we should be clapping.

By BCB on 03.04.08 2:43 pm

BCB, after reading Pam’s two posts on this thread and reading yours as well, I think I have a choice to make. Help me with this if I have it wrong.

Pam is trying to sell me a property in Shangri-La and at a rather cheap price–just my one vote. With that action and by electing her Super Hero, I will put behind me all of life’s past trials and tribulations. “Change,” and manna from heaven will rain down.

If I go your way, however, I will be living life under an “old war hero.” The one who has vowed to protect our children from the murderers who killed three-thousand Americans a few years ago. I might even be paying $4 for a gallon of gas.

Is that about it. Shangri-La versus reality? Yeah, I thought so.

I’m with you BCB. I don’t believe in magic fairy dust either. My vote will be for the “old war hero” and the Super Hero be damned. Him, his Shangri-La and his Change.

By chowdog2 on 03.04.08 5:53 pm

Being pushed off a cliff is making change. Is that what some people want?

Thanks Chowdog.

By BCB on 03.05.08 7:11 am